Practitioner's Exercise Routine

[attilio]

I'm interested to know how many practitioners have an exercise routine. And if you do, is it a traditional Asian exercise such as Tai Chi or Qi Gong or is it a western exercise such as running or gym?

[drphilip]

I do a very basic Qigong just to cleanse me of all that "sick" qi I'm exposed to in clinic. It was actually recommended to me by a patient and is cold Sheng Zhen.

On the other hand I am a big basketball fan and I play regularly - at least once a week.

[Unregistered]

Hi
I was recently in Beijing at the park of the Temple of Heaven, and watched a group perform an exercise routine with a lot of clapping and chanting. My guide wrote down the name (without accents) as:
pai da jian shen cao
and said it was local to Beijing.
It was terrifically energizing, led by a woman in her 40s or so.

If anyone knows where I can find materials (written or video) about this, I would be very greatful!!!

many thanks,
Lynne S. Brandon
Watertown, Massachusetts, USA

[bituo]

I have as exercise routine Chen Style Taijiquan "Small Frame" (Xiaojia), a very traditional Taiji Style. You can find some info at
http://www.chen-taijiquan.com/overview.htm
http://www.chinafrominside.com/ma/taiji/xiaojia.html

I have also a qigong routine, the zhineng qigong, one of the most effective in improving a person's health. see at
http://www.zhinengqigong.org/introduction.htm
http://members.tripod.com/jane_zqs/

Vito Marino
acupuncturist, Palermo (Italy)
www.studioadelasia.it


I'm interested to know how many practitioners have an exercise routine. And if you do, is it a traditional Asian exercise such as Tai Chi or Qi Gong or is it a western exercise such as running or gym?

[renegoris]

it is interesting to see how people in the west use chinese exercises as a sort of silver bullet/antibioticum. i have a counter question: do you really believe a series of exercise helps you to deal with health issues, especially when the exercises give such a low impact on your overal system that it mostly generates sensations of well being?

[AcuDoc]

I generally at the least do the 5 exercises from Hsing Yi Chuan and stand in San Choi and Yuan Yin when I have the extra time. Otherwise I practice the 5 element form and some animals about 4 times a week.

Currently I am also jogging several times a week.

I also do ch-kung on a daily basis.

[Desiree Bardie]

From what I learned in China as well as on my school (Oriental College in Amsterdam) Chinese medicine requires self cultivation. Self cultivation includes doing research on how you function and what could be better and/or altered. For this research you can use Qigong, Taijiquan or any other method.
Contrary to popular belief it is not the exercises themselves that do the trick, but what you do as a result of what you learn in the exercises. I have just been studying in China (Taijiquan in the Wudang mountains). The monks that do their daily practice there, also for Chinese medicine, work out strenuously, doing fitness, qigong, Taiji, Yoga and meditation. The credo is: if a practitioner is not healthy and fit, or at least knows what is wrong and can take that into account when treating people, then he cannot be a good practitioner.
So, in answer to this question: yes, I do exercise and use the qigongs, the taijiquan, the Wudang fitness, the wudang yoga, the selfcare massage and meditation that I learned (and teach also) in my exercise program.
I am also very interested to learn what others do and which methods they use. "My" qigongs are Zhongwujigong and Bamboo formula qigong. The Wudang Yoga can also be classified as a qigong. The Taijiquan I use is mainly the Wudang Taijquan, but every now and then I practice Yang style.

[Kevin_Wallbridge]

I came into Chinese medicine partly through Chinese internal martial arts. Physical culture is a huge part of what I do.

My daily practice is diverse. The season is largest dictator of my routine. In spring I train Yijinjing/muscle-tendon change, and work out like a daemon. Lots of heavy objects and weapons (in Baguazhang we love our heavy weapons).

In summer its all about flexibilty and looseness. Open jointed Taijiquan or Qigong. Lots of stretching.

Autumn is about consolidation and forms. The establishing of patterns. Fall is also when I hit things. The expression of short power with solid connections into the core.

The winter is for meditation. Very little sitting. Mostly Zhanzhuang/standing and Bagua Zhuantianzun/circle walking.

For me its not meerly "a low impact on your overal (sic) system that ... mostly generates sensations of well being." Its pretty active health maintainance and disease prevention.


Hey Acudoc, nice to hear of another Xingyiquan practitioner out there. I studied Hebei Xingyi off-and-on with Xu Gongwei in Vancouver, Canada, until his death. In the last six years I've been training Xinyi Liuhequan.

[drvinayvarma]

Hello
with warm greetings of the Day
I, Dr Vinay Varma, joining this forum just now. I am practicing medical acupuncture since 1978 at Hubli in India. God is kind and I am doing well. My aim is not only treat the patients and improve quality of life but also to spread awareness amongst public & medical professionals at large. Please feel to contact or express.
with warm regards
Dr Vinay Varma
www.acupuncturehub.org
drvinayvarma@rediffmail.com

[PatriciaLunn]

I'm interested to know how many practitioners have an exercise routine. And if you do, is it a traditional Asian exercise such as Tai Chi or Qi Gong or is it a western exercise such as running or gym?

I am a third year student at Derby University in England studying TCM and Shiatsu. I couldn't manage my work load without regular Makkaho stretches, Tai Chi and Chi Gong. Walking in the English countryside also helps a good deal.

[FrancesGander]

I, too, came to the practice of Chinese medicine through the Chinese internal arts--primarily taijiquan and qigong. I am off practice soon as I log off. It's a bunch of stretches, circling and wiggling around, ba duan jin, then a nice slow taijiquan long form, and a quick dash through taiji sword, sit quietly for a few minutes and then get to work. When the weather gets nicer, I like to trail walk in the woods a couple of times a week. I practice qigong at the cusp of seasonal changes.

[rtoomim]

> > I play Capoeira.

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[erichl]

Hi my name is Erich Lewitus from Israel
I do Yoga twicw a week, Pilatis once a week and Taichi Shibashi every
evening before going to bed.

[purekarm]

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[attilio]

Hi,

I've just emailed everyone telling them it takes a few days to stop receiving messages once you have either unsubscribed or deleted your account.

Be a little patient and they will stop.

[armsordyl]

Yep it's very important for well-being.
I go to a gym once or trice per week, I do either 15-30 min yoga each morning or the five Tibetans, and meditate (mental exercise) daily. I coach my nephew in tennis once a week so still hit a few balls with him, and I try to walk as often as I can.
Wow that sounds a lot but it doesn't feel a lot.
Andy

[alainas]

Yes I do have an exercise routine which consists of the gym 2 x a week with cardio machines, some weights and stretching plus cycling 1-2 a week depending on weather. I practice Dao-In as taught to me by Hua Ching Ni and some various movements from 8 treasures and self healing qi gong as needed.
Alaina Speraw, L. Ac.

[carrieh]

First off--John Waligorski--I would be curious to know where you are getting your medical qi gong certification? I live in Dearborn, MI and was wondering if it was somewhere accessible to the area... My acupuncture school is trying to get one started for our clinic year, probably related to Jerry Alan Johnson's program.

I am an acupuncture student, and also practice and teach yoga. Daily I walk (I wear a pedometer and try to get between 10,000 and 12,000 steps a day, with whatever exercise the season permits), practice Qi Gong (Tai Chi Dao Yin, from my teacher at AFEA Paul Fraser) and less regularly Pan Gu. I am very interested in medical qi gong, and just purchased the Earth Qi Gong for Women dvd and book, hoping to study with the author sometime in the near future.

(Since this is the first time I've posted here, I'll say a bit about myself--recently moved to Michigan, student at the Academy for Five Element Acupuncture, also an Integrative Yoga Therapist.)

Carrie

[chusauli]

I teach martial arts, weaponry, qigong and meditation, as well as do Tai
Ji Quan and various body weight exercises such as squats, push ups, crunches
and also work extensively with Kettlebells. As a Kettlebell coach, I have
developed routines for strength, endurance and cardio based on Escalating
Density Training and Tabata/High Intensity Interval Training methods. Since
I am Chinese, but grew up in the West, I recognize the benefits to both
methods of training. - Robert Chu, L.Ac., QME. PhD

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[Andrea Beth Damsky, L.Ac.]

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[attilio]

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[Desiree Bardie]

Hi Frances,
I agrre with you that it is about circulation, but not only that. It is
about functioning of body and mind and the exercises themselves give you the
tool to research that. How do you know for instance that it isn't heat or
damp or wind that you feel. These are much easier to feel then qi. It is
only after long years of training several hours a day that you learn to
discern. And to make use of the exercises for improving health, well, I
think then you would have to know about Chinese medicine and their outlook
on health and illness. Because like my teacher always says: If you can do
good with an exercise or method then you can obviously change something in
the mind-body system and therefor you can also do harm with it when you
don't know how it works.

Desiree Bardie

[pualani1]

hi guys and gals..interesting to read your messages. silver bullet? frances gander thank you for your input! and rene? umm..yes we do really believe and what seems so insufficient to you about "sensations of well being? " ;-) i wanna learn to groove to it now :-)) and otherwise, just a big hello to everybody of this interesting bunch! pualani from switzerland :-)))

[renegoris]

dear all, thank you for your replies on my question. it is nice to hear so many people dillegently practicing. but what i hear time and time again is that people just practice. what i meant with my question is if anybody ever noticed that health as we westerners define it, doesn't even exist originally in Chinese native medicine? so, is the effect of health intended? i don't think so.
also, bliss as experienced by some in qigong is traditionally seen as an abberation, even in Buddhism. delight, yes, delight is ok, because it still allows for clarity. but feeling realy good in practice is a no go. further, the exercises should not just be practiced, they should be practiced in relation to a goal. qigong is not an exact science so developing the approriate feel for it is a necessity. that is why most medicine masters in old times used qigong practice, or better internal practice to learn how theory works. there medicne skills depended on it.
most qigongs people nowadays do are basically warm up exercises, things you do before you go actually exercise, and people already call them qigong or neidan or daoyin. i saw one posting where western body body building and qigong were combined, all these things can, but what is the intend you wish to achieve with it? just exercising to acquire health doesn't sound other then silver bullit talk to me.
could anyone clarify the goals and possible achioevements of theire exercises for me? what role would feeling good have for your practice? and why is feeling good not the same as delight? if my questions bother you, please let me know.

rene goris
international oriental college
wudang health academy
IOU distance education

[renegoris]

hi Paulani, thank you for yr comment. yes i have a difficulty with feeling good in practice if feeling good is becoming a goal for practice. feeling good in life, yes that is great. it means your life is on a good track (or you suffer manic behaviour, lol)
in many cases feeling good in practice is an abberation or even a negative side effect. Chinese culture often stresses that feeling neutral is good since it doesn't allow for emotional upheaval, while western Christian rapture considers feeling good being touched by the hand of God and therefore requires us to be elevated in mood to allow His presence uncritically and without resistance. in that case you should call yr practice Christian science or something. the same goes for yogic practice. of course in modern yogic practice super-ego's need to be nourished. that is why the yogic theory has expanded so much under the influence of western physics theory.
bliss moreover as described in both Buddhism and Daoism is and inward turning of the mind only experiencing itself, often as light or absence of something, but in both cases texts warn that rapture ought to be avoided since it fries the mind and consummates yin. you might have heart of kundalini syndrome? frying yr mind is like overdosing on lsd the way it is described. many practitioners eventually seek addictions and psychiatric help 'cos their "happiness' dislodged them from their social lives. when in practice feeling very content and happy it might also dry and thus overheat the heart, causing premature senility when happening too often. you see this also happen with people practising while too inattentive in their relaxation. i hope i made sufficiently clear that feeling good might be a distraction form the actual practice. that is where my remark comes from. it is not to give anyone a bad feel about their practice. it is just a professional note.

rene goris
etc

[Gaal]

I do practice LIAN GONG SH BA FA
18 exercises to practice daily
(almost every day)
It is maybe more of a stretching routine
Very popular in China
And great for those of us reaching or close to the age of wisdom

Gaal

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